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Published Date: 25 November 2009
Pellon Lane
Halifax
It always used to puzzle me: Why add fluoride to the water supply when, as recent letters to Your say from D Ward and P Owens point out, we can simply buy fluoride toothpaste?

Then I read a newspaper article by a member of the British Dental Association who explained that for fluoride to be effective in preventing tooth decay it had to be ingested because tooth enamel is not permeable.

He also explained that toothpaste manufacturers added fluoride as a marketing ploy. This does not mean that I'm in favour of fluoridation of the water supply, because I'm not qualified to know. I'm just passing the information on to Courier readers for them to make their own minds up.

I do agree with George Simpson's letter though, that too many emotive claims and the contradictory claims of Dennis Edmondson have been made and agree that we should wait for the Calderdale NHS factual report on fluoride next spring.

Colin Shaw



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  • Last Updated: 25 November 2009 8:55 AM
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Rob Reynolds,

25/11/2009 09:19:48
Which newspaper? Who wrote it? If this person is a dentist I will call for their immediate dismissal. Fluoride, if ingested, builds up in the body. This can result in a number of problems, mainly brittle bones in old age.

As for it being a "ploy" by toothpaste manufacturers...
they sincerely put it in toothpaste, believing the old research that it helps stop tooth decay. Then more modern research began to show it didn't. It even showed that it had an adverse impact on brain development of young children. The response of the manufacturers? Remove all research funding, sack the research scientists, bury the report and deny everything.
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markwarne,

halifax 25/11/2009 14:11:39
Why add fluoride to the water supply?

The answer is simple look to see who will make money out of disposing of this poisonous cr*p into the public water supply, this will tell you all you need to know.

It won't be you or me will it?

we will just pay for it and the ongoing consequences of doing it as usual.
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RFH,

25/11/2009 16:29:37
Just because you disagree with ONE claim by ONE person, doesn’t mean the whole argument is wrong. And, yes, some claims may be emotive; that doesn’t make them untrue or less valid.
You say you're not qualified to know, but you are qualified to decide whether or not you want to consume water that’s contaminated with an industrial waste chemical, especially when there is NO data to back up its claims yet there is ample data available to both refute the claims and provide evidence of the damage it does to humans and animals.
And whatever ‘facts’ the NHS, or anyone else for that matter, come up with, no one has a right to force medication on us in any form. As I've said many times before – fluoride is readily available in other forms, there is no justifiable reason to put it in our drinking water.
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Titus Groan,

Herb Rush 26/11/2009 08:51:26
This argument is like global warming...there is never going to be an agreed common ground.

For instance..just googling "British dental assoc. fluoride toothpaste" the first article I read states...

..."HEALTH warnings could be placed on tubes of fluoride toothpaste sold in Britain after the issue of a United States alert on the dangers of swallowing the chemical."

It goes on to say that should more than one toothbrush full be swallowed the person should contact a poison control centre....extreme, perhaps, but scary!

There is too much information both for and against the use of fluoride for me, at least, to come to any rational conclusion.
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Rob Reynolds,

26/11/2009 08:56:26
4. Let's assume you're right and there's too much info. for and against, as you say. Surely you then play safe? If in doubt, don't?

Not surprised about the health warnings. More and more USA dentists are warning against using anything but a tiny amount of fluoridated toothpaste on a brush. Yet when you see adverts on tv, they're almost bathing in it!!!
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Titus Groan,

Herb Rush 26/11/2009 09:06:25
#5...I lean decidedly against the addition of fluoride in our water supply....my thinking is that there is NO danger of water without fluoride..so why take the risk of adding it.

I also think that regular dental care and diet is all that is needed to keep teeth in good condition and it is lazy in the extreme to rely on a chemical to do the job.

The amount of info available is so vast I reckon that gut feeling would surpass all the "expert's" years of findings.
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jwillie6,

27/11/2009 17:34:39
Europe is now 98% fluoride free. They and most of the world caught on to this fluoridation hoax years ago.
When the fertilitzer companies, and others, clean their smokestacks, they bag the waste fluoride chemical, ( Hydrofluorosilicic Acid), which contains lead, mercury, arsenic, etc. and sell it to communities to add to our water systems. The Government tries to convince us that it does not harm us if it is diluted enough. Who benefits-------follow the money!
Those promoting fluoridation simply refuse to read the current research showing it is ineffective and dangerous to health. Go to (www.fluoridealert.org) and read several scientific articles.
Read the letter from Dr. Hardy Limeback ( DDS, PhD Biochemistry) --- Head, Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto entitled "Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water"
He was the principal research advisor to the Canadian Dental Asociation for over 10 years in promoting fluoridation. His letter is an apology to other dentists and the public.
Dr. Limeback includes over 140 Research studies, including:
Increased risk of bone cancer -- 13 studies
Lead, arsenic, radium contaminants causing toxic water -- 10 studies
Link with fluoride and other cancer -- 12
Fluoride causes birth defects -- 5
Fluoride affects the immune systems -- 12
Fluoride is neurotoxic (brain, nerves, lowering IQ) -- 11
Etc.
Also see the petition signed by over 2600 professionals opposing fluoridation.
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Zog,

Hailfax 29/11/2009 16:38:13
Just thought you would all like to know this little argument:

Yorkshire Water would be the Agent to actually add the Fluoride, ok.

Now then: As an Agent, Yorkshire Water would need to be required by the local NHS to add the chemicals, ok.

It's at the request of the NHS and it has to agree to add the chemicals.

Now then, Yorkshire Water has an enormous Grid System which stretches all accross Yorkshire, so water, from say Halifax Water Works, could find it's way down into Sheffield. This means that the Local NHS Trust in Sheffield would also have to agree to the addition of Fluoride. And what about the rest of the NHS Trusts? They will also have to agree to the addition. That's the whole of the Yorkshire Water supply area.

Now, have you ever known ALL of the NHS Trusts to agree, mob-handed, about anything before?

QED - No Fluoride

Zog.
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