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Recycling? Yes please!



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Published Date: 18 September 2008
Smithwell Lane
Heptonstall
NOWADAYS, most of us agree that plastic waste is one of the more environmentally-damaging materials we put into landfill sites, because it never degrades.
Calderdale Council, compared with other councils, is dragging its feet shamefully about putting in place arrangements to recycle all our plastic waste, not just the bottles.
That being the case, people from Blackshaw Head and Halifax have been saving their clean dry plastic in order to take it to the people who should be responsible for its recycling.
First we took many bags to the town hall where a town hall official came out to assure us that it would all be properly recycled.
Next we took bags to Morrison's supermarket in Todmorden. The manager there emerged to say that he agreed that plastic waste is indeed a problem and that he would ensure that ours would be recycled and that Morrison's did its very best to deal with its own and its customer's plastic waste.
In neither case were threats used.
On Saturday, September 6, three of us took a large number of dustbin bags full of plastic to the big Tesco Store near Halifax with a requested that Tesco recycle it. A youngish woman came out on behalf of the management and announced that this "would not do", we must take it all away or she would send for the police. I told her it would not look good if Tesco caused two 81 year old women to be bundled into police cars for staging a peaceful protest about this supermarket's failure to reduce the amount of plastic packaging it used, thereby being responsible for huge environmental damage. She repeated that she would call the police. I was prepared to stay but our driver said he did not want to be forced to put all these bags back into his car and it would be better if we left, leaving the bags behind with a notice attached to them saying why they were there. So that is what we did.
This letter is to highlight the marked contrast between the way we were treated by Tesco's management compared with the courteous treatment we received from Morrisons.
We intend to continue the protests outside other supermarkets when we have accumulated more plastic. Believe me, it doesn't take long.
Barbara Green

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  • Last Updated: 18 September 2008 9:13 AM
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exhecman,

18/09/2008 10:24:37
Litter Lout!
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hebdenlass,

18/09/2008 11:46:50
Dont blame Tesco for your plastic waste. You were not forced into buying items wrapped in plastic. Your actions were bullish, and you used the threat of having two old ladys bundled into a police car to get what you wanted. You're a bully!
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me,

calderdale 18/09/2008 12:42:57
Lock em up!
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PrincessFiona,

18/09/2008 19:08:07
Barbara I will take the plastic it keeps the fire burning
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fluffythevampire,

21/09/2008 10:52:04
Hebdenlass - yes, we should be blaming TESCO for it's plastic. We are forced to buty it - tyewll jme otherwise why brocolli and other veg some coverted in mountains of cling film? I went to Tesco a few days ago for some mushrooms, the only ones I could buy were those in a plastic box.

That day, I also took my own re-usable bag - the last item to be checked out was a bar of soap and the checkout lady started to put this into a carrier bag!! I was gobsmacked.

I contacted Tesco and they have replied with the meekest of replies which did not answer any of my questions. If you look at the Tesco website they state they are

cutting down on waste
using greener packaging
cutting down on carrier bags

Clearly it is greenwash. Yes, we all must accept individual responsibilty for the impact on the environment. But Tesco is a significant player who puts out green propaganda which is clearly far from the truth.

Barbara Green - well done, keep up the pressure, maybe promote when you are next doing something like this, more people I'm sure will take up action. Tesco etc will only act with consumer pressure. They are only interested in profits.

As for PrincessFiona - burning plastics is detrimental to the environment and to human health. It releases many chemicals including carcinogenic dioxins.

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hebdenlass,

22/09/2008 11:40:56
Fluffy, Shop somewhere else. Protest with your wallet!
Dont dump your litter on their doorstep, that was all i was saying. Of course we all want to, cut back on our plastic waste, of course we do, but littering is not the answer. Tesco in Halifax have provided the community with a very very good recycling facility. we should applaud them for this at least, and request that they do more. They are listening.
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fluffythevampire,

22/09/2008 22:33:34
hebdenlass

Point 1 - yes absolutely. I don't disagree. However, Tesco SHOULD have the plastic dumped on their doorstep and made to deal with it. No, no dumped as in littering, but dumped as in making a protest. Supermarkets are repsonsible for a massive amount of unnecessary waste in this country. And just as I advocate individual responsibility, I also advocate that shops also take responsibilty. If you go to an electrical shop for a new fridge freezer, the shop BY LAW has to take the old one and recycle it responsibly. Yet, not everyone realises this - the shop realising this gains kudos from it's greenwash and make out as if they are providing a great and FREE environmental service.

Tesco forces the public to accept tonnes of food on daily basis, wrapped in unnecessaty packaging - when I was a kid you didn't get everything wrapped up in palstic - there is no need. Who do you think pays for the tonnes of plastic packaging? it aint Tesco - it's passed onto the consumer. We are paying for the rubbish forced upon uis and we have to deal with it. They buy it, they should have the responsibilty to deal with it - just as the electrical store and the fridge freezer.

As for all those skips of recycling - what value, from the materials all across the country do you think that Tesco are making - for not doing anything other than allocating a small amount of land on the car park. Money for nothing - yet it gains environmental kudos - just as you are giving it masses of praise.

Of course, environmetal responsibilty also rests with the indivisdual and the best thing is to avoid where possible unecccesarry packaing - but the supermarkets do not always allow it.

So, once again Barbara Green - well done - keep it up and please let us know of any more activities you may well be planning.
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hebdenlass,

22/09/2008 22:53:02
Fluffy, you are full of contradictions here.
Tesco do not force you to buy anything! you buy it because it is convieneient for you. Convieneient in so much as you can go to a butchers for your meat, wrapped in paper, a green grocers for you apples in a paper bag etc etc, but you choose to go to Tesco. The fact that their produce is is under one roof is at your convieneince. Tesco hav realised that they need to have a better public perception, and so they try to make amends by offering facilities, on commercial land, at a their own expense. and you see this as grounds for critisism.
once you have bought an item, it is your responsibility. Dont blame someone else. Working through your logic, i should take my newspapers back to the shop once ive read it, and dump it on their doorstep. Let them deal with it! I dont need it anymore.
You and Barbara Green are exactly whats wrong with this country. You are petty.
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fluffythevampire,

23/09/2008 08:07:18
hebdenlass.

I have said nothing that is contradictory and to end your argument with a personlised remark is a sign weak argument. Discuss and debate yes - personal remarks - I'll leave that to you.

I have never said that Tesco force me to buy anything.

I take it from your forum name that you are from Hebden Bridge. Well, we all can't be as fortunate as you with the array of small shops with a range of goods. Believe me, where I live is nothing but pubs, hairdressers and places to eat. There is no bread shop, there is a small butchers shop - but I'm a vegetarian. There is no green grocers shop per se. That is another feature of the supermarket - not only are they everywhere, but they drive out the small town shops owners. It's a well known fact.

Go to the TESCO web site and they champion themselves towards the environment. My argument was pretty simple - they are not at all champions and have an amazing sized eco-footprint. They do have responsibilty - just as individuals we have responsibilty too. If you read through my posts properly, you will see that i have argued this all along.

And as a case in point I will reiterate - i went to TESCO for some loose mushrooms - couldn't get any; all the brocolli > was wrapped up in cling film, as is most of their produce. I took with me my own plastic free bag; the checkout lady proceeded to place a bar of soap into a carrier bag for me. And you think Tesco blameless.

If I can, I'll be standing alongside Barbara on her next campaign. Consumer pressure is where it's at.

And by the way, I've recycled for far longer than when it became hip - I've been recycling for more than 20 years, so this is not something new to me - I used to walk over a mile to recycle my weekly glass, paper and cans. I think I can exercise personal responsibility pretty well thank you very much.
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hebdenlass,

23/09/2008 11:41:15
Firstly, fluffy i appologise for the personal remark. If what you say is true, then you are an exapmle of how we should all recycle. And without being patronising, well done to you.

I think that the recent discussions about recycling, including the one involving Kerbside, have missed the bigger picture. Until very recently it has, for the majority of the population, been the norm to dispose of everything in the one bin. Recycling is fairly new to most people, and the fact that we have not yet caught up with places such as Portugal, or Holland is worrying, however the bigger picture is that we ARE doing something now. Small steps.

Tesco knows its policy isnt 100% perfect, but you have to ask why? Is it because the facilities to recycle plastic are not available in this area yet?
Kerbside did not take my plastic, and SITA take even less. Perhaps the argument is not with Tesco, but rather with Local Government. If it were as simple as recycling paper, i'm sure Tesco would provide the facilities.
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